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Annabelle (415 posts) Click to EMail Annabelle Click to send private message to Annabelle Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-15-07, 11:15 AM (EST)
"Hip Hop"
any suggestions on some fresh lyrical beats?

i'm not talking about all that ghetto gang-banging shiat.
clean and funky...preferably with old school sampling in the mix, yo.

i'm a little bored with my selections.

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 RE: Hip Hop poorrichard Nov-15-07 1
   RE: Hip Hop sinko25 Nov-15-07 2
       RE: Hip Hop shackaholic Nov-15-07 3
           RE: Hip Hop withoutfeathers Nov-15-07 4
               RE: Hip Hop dutchoven Nov-15-07 5
 RE: Hip Hop dudleymooresfrisby Nov-16-07 6
   RE: Hip Hop Annabelle Nov-16-07 7
       RE: Hip Hop shackaholic Nov-16-07 8
           RE: Hip Hop shackaholic Nov-16-07 9
               RE: Hip Hop shackaholic Nov-16-07 10
   RE: Hip Hop sinko25 Nov-18-07 14
 RE: Hip Hop poorrichard Nov-17-07 11
   RE: Hip Hop withoutfeathers Nov-17-07 12
       RE: Hip Hop judson Nov-17-07 13
           RE: Hip Hop witaker Nov-20-07 15
               RE: Hip Hop dk Nov-21-07 16
                   RE: Hip Hop shackaholic Nov-22-07 17
                       RE: Hip Hop poorrichard Nov-24-07 18
                       RE: Hip Hop newplanet7 Jan-07-08 21
 Galactic w/ MCs-download this show ... rd420 Nov-29-07 19
   hip hop coasts Jan-07-08 20
 RE: Hip Hop judson Jan-08-08 22
 RE: Hip Hop DKqwerty Jan-10-08 23
 RE: Hip Hop pd_on_keys Jan-10-08 24
 RE: Hip Hop newplanet7 Jan-26-08 25
   RE: Hip Hop Annabelle Jan-26-08 26
       RE: Hip Hop withoutfeathers Jan-27-08 27
 RE: Hip Hop Partido Alto Mar-16-08 28
 RE: Hip Hop BubbleShack Mar-21-08 29
   RE: Hip Hop Annabelle Mar-21-08 30
 RE: Hip Hop surlybuf Nov-10-09 31

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poorrichard (104 posts) Click to EMail poorrichard Click to send private message to poorrichard Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-15-07, 01:22 PM (EST)
1. "RE: Hip Hop"
If you don't have this album, pick it up immediately:


Eric B. & Rakim - Paid In Full

Some others I've been into lately:


Common - Resurrection
Madlib - The Beat Konducta Vol. 1-2 (Mainly beats and samples)
Jurassic 5 - Quality Control
Too $hort - Life is... Too $hort

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sinko25 (92 posts) Click to EMail sinko25 Click to send private message to sinko25 Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-15-07, 01:29 PM (EST)
2. "RE: Hip Hop"
the new j-live ep is the hippist ##### i've heard i years!
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shackaholic (927 posts) Click to EMail shackaholic Click to send private message to shackaholic Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-15-07, 02:51 PM (EST)
3. "RE: Hip Hop"
madvillain - madvillainy
people under the stairs - OST
jay dee - donuts
vaudeville villain by mf doom
mm food - mf doom
the perceptionists - black dialogue
oh no - dr. no's oxperiment

edan - beauty and the beat
dalek - abandoned language

all of these are highly creative, non-gangster crap. the last two that i wrote are great albums but not the most accessible for those who aren't too deep into hip hop.

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withoutfeathers (119 posts) Click to EMail withoutfeathers Click to send private message to withoutfeathers Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-15-07, 05:16 PM (EST)
4. "RE: Hip Hop"
shackaholic hit it right with madvillainy.

any mf doom is sure to rub you the right way.

check out the dangerdoom album (mf doom and danger mouse)

atmosphere

brother ali

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dutchoven (153 posts) Click to EMail dutchoven Click to send private message to dutchoven Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-15-07, 06:39 PM (EST)
5. "RE: Hip Hop"
I heard this underground joint today, Soulja Boy.

Its a very very creative rap piece.

;)

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dudleymooresfrisby (28 posts) Click to EMail dudleymooresfrisby Click to send private message to dudleymooresfrisby Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-16-07, 02:32 AM (EST)
6. "RE: Hip Hop"
Theres a sick band floating around the new england scene right now called Grow you may want to check out. They got a great mc going by the name sneak technic. but they really mix it up between him and a singer/keys who's got kind of a Stevie Wonder-esque thing going on so its not ALL hip-hop. Full horns too. they're 1st album is supposedly set for release next month, i'm hoping so, but you can find them on myspace and jamspace and i'm sure elsewhere online.

And i'm not in this band or affiliated with this band, I'm just offering up my 2 cents

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Annabelle (415 posts) Click to EMail Annabelle Click to send private message to Annabelle Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-16-07, 08:21 AM (EST)
7. "RE: Hip Hop"
THANKS!

that's a great start....now i just wish one of you could make me the ultimate hip hop compilation!
...well if you get bored.
i'll send pics of my boobies if you make me one.

haha...i'm so kidding.

seriously...i love mix "tapes".

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shackaholic (927 posts) Click to EMail shackaholic Click to send private message to shackaholic Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-16-07, 10:19 PM (EST)
8. "RE: Hip Hop"
i was just listening to the perceptionists album i recommended and while it's good, it's in no way a necessary album. strike that one from the list.

another KILLER album is Giant Panda - Fly School Reunion. it's also somewhat more along the lines of what you're looking for in that it's closer to old school hip hop. and yes, one of the mc's is japanese and he's great!

From amazon.com:

2005 saw many remarkable underground releases ; Oktober - The Art Of Raw, One Be Lo - Sonogram, O.C. - Starchild just to name a few, but it has to be Giant Panda's "Fly School Reunion" that reigns as the most hard-hitting, original & refreshing album to come out at a time when authentic & fun-loving music was missing. Maanumental (Black lead MC), Newman (White MC/Producer) & Chikaramanga (Japanese Producer/MC) are a trio that make up the group Giant Panda. Hailing from 2 different places ; Seattle (Newman, Maanumental) & L.A. (Chikaramanga), Giant Panda offer a very diverse listen on Fly School Reunion, in terms of both the artists' own personalities & indeed the music they make together. The most notable thing about this particular group is that they sound remarkably like their close LA affiliates, People Under The Stairs (Thes One & Double K). This mainly being down to the fact that for some odd reason both Maanumental & Newman are indeed very reminiscent of Thes One, in both delivery & charisma. However saying this, it has to be said that no matter how much of a massive fan I am of the P, both Maanumental & Newman are on a totally different level, lyrically, to both Thes & K, purely for their complex, flavorful & innovative word-play that both successfully demonstrate. Straight B-Boy's.

The production courtesy of Chikaramanga & Newman (the majority) is also very similar to that of PUTS, with the SP sounding funk, snares, hi-hats, pefectly flipped samples, cuts & alla the rest of that good stuff! that has made both Thes & K, two of my favourite producers, period. The production here is AMAZING...with Thes One actually dropping by for the tracks "Super Fly" & "Racist". The best part of FSR, is that not only does every single track have for 1) amazing production but also all provide flawless, charasmatic lyricism throughout, a combination that just begs for more spins. The highlights of the album have to be the fantasticly charming "With It", the hard-hitters "Just Cause" & "Sho' Improve", the laid-back "Always Dope", the thought-provoking "racist", the ridiculously funky "TKO" & the beautifully atmospheric "Strings".

A very original & fresh quality about GP is Chikaramanga, who is a Japanese MC/Producer who demonstrates his own flava & lyrical ability (in japanese mostly) over approx 1/3 of the tracks. Very different, and it works fantastically only adding to both Newman's & Maanumental's additional impact.
It is evident that Giant Panda stay true to their roots, but maintain both their originality & progression at the same time...resulting in an essential to those, fortunately, who have not subcumb to the brain-washing material being put out under the name of "hiphop" (and other genres). If they carry on in this direction, I believe that they may even become as successful, respected & indeed just as untouchable as the legendary P.

Bottom Line>> I can't say enough postive things about this album, it is quickly becoming one of my favourites & best-buy's for a long time. You have to listen to truly appreciate Giant Panda...cop this ish. PEACE

Lyrics - 10/10
Beats - 10/10
Originality - 9.5/10
Replay Value - 10/10

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shackaholic (927 posts) Click to EMail shackaholic Click to send private message to shackaholic Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-16-07, 10:34 PM (EST)
9. "RE: Hip Hop"
oh, and while i'm rambling about hip hop, i'll also say that i should be severely beaten for not mentioning a criminally unknown hip hop group from Atlanta called Psyche Origami.

just trust me on this one, both of their albums are *phenomenal* if you're looking for new old school stuff. buy them Annabelle! if you buy one and don't like it, i will reimburse your money, no lie!

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shackaholic (927 posts) Click to EMail shackaholic Click to send private message to shackaholic Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-16-07, 10:40 PM (EST)
10. "RE: Hip Hop"
LAST EDITED ON Nov-16-07 AT 11:22 PM (EST)

one of the most amazingly gifted lyrical mc's that most people haven't heard of (he's too hardcore and in your face to ever be anything other than underground, imo): immortal technique.

at best so-so beats, but brilliantly talented lyricism. some may find him offensive though!

"i jerk off inside books and give life to words,
leaving concepts stuck together you probably never heard.
i love when people think i'm psychologically disturbed
cause it means i overloaded their neurological nerves."

"i'll rip the electrons out your body and make you positive."

here's a link to one of his songs from revolutionary vol. 1, called dance with the devil.

immortal technique - revolutionary vol 1
dance with the devil
320 kbps; 15.62 MB; 06:49

http://www.sendspace.com/file/jnxor4

i'll stop now, ha. let's just say that i have a passion for hip hop.

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sinko25 (92 posts) Click to EMail sinko25 Click to send private message to sinko25 Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-18-07, 04:09 PM (EST)
14. "RE: Hip Hop"
sounds like a cool group, but i can't find any info on them ... got a link?
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poorrichard (104 posts) Click to EMail poorrichard Click to send private message to poorrichard Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-17-07, 03:52 AM (EST)
11. "RE: Hip Hop"
I can't believe I forgot this guy:

Brother Ali - Shadows on the Sun

I can't stress how good this album is. Ali is one of the best lyricists by far today.

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withoutfeathers (119 posts) Click to EMail withoutfeathers Click to send private message to withoutfeathers Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-17-07, 05:02 PM (EST)
12. "RE: Hip Hop"
yeah i mentioned brother ali earlier. i don't own much of his stuff though. so i regrettably can't make any album suggestions.

i just know he's unbelievable.

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judson (41 posts) Click to EMail judson Click to send private message to judson Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-17-07, 07:03 PM (EST)
13. "RE: Hip Hop"
Liquid Swords!
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witaker (51 posts) Click to EMail witaker Click to send private message to witaker Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-20-07, 04:56 PM (EST)
15. "RE: Hip Hop"
The Coup, their newest album "Pick a Bigger Weapon" is awesome. As is "steal this album" Boots Riley is the MC, politically conscious hip hop with an awesome funk backing band and the spinstress definetely dropping old school samples. That and another heads up for Edan's beauty and the beat, one of the best hip-hop albums ever in my mind.
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dk (7 posts) Click to EMail dk Click to send private message to dk Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-21-07, 09:48 AM (EST)
16. "RE: Hip Hop"
Anything by Aesop Rock (esp. None Shall Pass)
Mr. Lif
J Dilla
Tribe Called Quest
Nas
Heliocentrics
And try some instrumental #####:
Sixtoo
Blockhead
Skalpel
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shackaholic (927 posts) Click to EMail shackaholic Click to send private message to shackaholic Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-22-07, 10:18 AM (EST)
17. "RE: Hip Hop"
> Nas

Nas - Illmatic is one of the best hip hop albums ever.

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poorrichard (104 posts) Click to EMail poorrichard Click to send private message to poorrichard Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-24-07, 03:43 AM (EST)
18. "RE: Hip Hop"
>> Nas
>
>Nas - Illmatic is one of
>the best hip hop albums
>ever.


Truth

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newplanet7 (22 posts) Click to EMail newplanet7 Click to send private message to newplanet7 Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jan-07-08, 11:51 PM (EST)
21. "RE: Hip Hop"
>> Nas
>
>Nas - Illmatic is one of
>the best hip hop albums
>ever.

But Stillmatic is a piece of dung.

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rd420 (158 posts) Click to EMail rd420 Click to send private message to rd420 Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-29-07, 05:43 PM (EST)
19. "Galactic w/ MCs-download this show from etree"
I recently taped Galactic @ Roseland in NYC (11/17/07).

http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=511453&viewcomm=323752#comm323752

They played with a bunch of MCs, Chali 2Na (Jurassic 5), Boots Riley, Mr. Lif, the Lifesavas, etc.

Chali 2Na and Boots Riley were especially good and the end Immigrant Song/Freestyle Rap 'Jam' was a show stopper (6 different MCs).

Check it out.

If anyone out there has the following gig, PLEASE let me know, my gear went down and I have yet to locate a copy (there were other tapers there):

Galactic
11/12/05
Irving Plaza
NYC

Peace & Enjoy,

Rick

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coasts (3 posts) Click to EMail coasts Click to send private message to coasts Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jan-07-08, 11:46 PM (EST)
20. "hip hop"
less important to know the artists than it is to know the labels. do your homework from there.

start with:

Stonesthrow
Ninja Tune/Big Dada
Rhymesayers
Definitive Jux
Chocolate Ind.

many of the artists mentioned above appear on these labels.

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judson (41 posts) Click to EMail judson Click to send private message to judson Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jan-08-08, 12:48 PM (EST)
22. "RE: Hip Hop"
Hieroglyphics........the new inspectah deck album is hot as well,

j

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DKqwerty (338 posts) Click to EMail DKqwerty Click to send private message to DKqwerty Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jan-10-08, 01:11 PM (EST)
23. "RE: Hip Hop"
What, all you mofos are too good for a little Jay-Z? Get the Black album, produced by Rick Ruban; wicked.
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pd_on_keys (224 posts) Click to EMail pd_on_keys Click to send private message to pd_on_keys Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jan-10-08, 03:16 PM (EST)
24. "RE: Hip Hop"
My favorite hip hop groups are old school:
The Roots
Tribe Called Quest
Pharcyde
Digable Planets
Guru's Jazzmatazz albums (the guy from Gangstarr, great lyricist)
Cypress Hill (their self-titled debut album is some of the funkiest hip hop around, although they are kinda obsessed with guns)

In my opinion, the best hip hop album of all time is The Roots "Do You Want More?". Its the only hip hop album that has a permanent place on my 8 GB iPod.

I would like to politely disagree with anyone who recommends any artists from Definitive Jux, that label is horrible with the exception of Aesop Rock (whose material improves with every release).

Now I am taking advantage of this forum to vent to anyone who wants to read:
I dont listen to a lot of hip hop cause most of it sucks in my opinion. Especially nowadays in the age of Fruity Loops, Abelton Live, etc., Any guy off the street can record piano tracks in Guitar Center and take it home on a Cd and then edit it into a song. ALSO. I hate those guys who badger you on the streets of New York City and try to make you feel guilty for not buying their rap album. They are everywhere and I am done with being polite to them. When they try to hand you the CD, dont take it from their hand, thats the oldest trick in the book!!

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newplanet7 (22 posts) Click to EMail newplanet7 Click to send private message to newplanet7 Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jan-26-08, 08:33 PM (EST)
25. "RE: Hip Hop"
No love for Check Your Head Or
Ill Communication?

Two great, great albums.

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Annabelle (415 posts) Click to EMail Annabelle Click to send private message to Annabelle Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jan-26-08, 11:02 PM (EST)
26. "RE: Hip Hop"
>No love for Check Your Head
>Or
>Ill Communication?
>
>Two great, great albums.

i agree....

already a part of my repertoire.


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withoutfeathers (119 posts) Click to EMail withoutfeathers Click to send private message to withoutfeathers Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Jan-27-08, 11:53 PM (EST)
27. "RE: Hip Hop"
anyone mentioned non-prophets? (or sage francis)..

awesome. just heard this stuff for the first time recently

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Partido Alto (1 posts) Click to EMail Partido%20Alto Click to send private message to Partido%20Alto Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Mar-16-08, 12:46 PM (EST)
28. "RE: Hip Hop"
People Under the Stairs -- O.S.T., Or Stay Tuned, American Men Vol 1.

Thes One -- Live at the Rootdown Soundclash

Diverse -- One A.M.

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BubbleShack (8 posts) Click to EMail BubbleShack Click to send private message to BubbleShack Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Mar-21-08, 10:23 AM (EST)
29. "RE: Hip Hop"
Deltron 3030
Liquid Swords
Aquemini
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Annabelle (415 posts) Click to EMail Annabelle Click to send private message to Annabelle Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Mar-21-08, 11:28 AM (EST)
30. "RE: Hip Hop"
We've got a plethora on our hands, folks!

Thanks.

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surlybuf (19 posts) Click to EMail surlybuf Click to send private message to surlybuf Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Nov-10-09, 05:14 PM (EST)
31. "RE: Hip Hop"
Replying a year later. Sweet.

One Drop

A group from Orlando previously Gainesville mix jazz and rap.

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